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One of the above pictures is a human blastocyst, the other is an amoeba. Can you tell the difference? Do you think our President could?

If you put a baby into cryogenic storage, it will die. If you take a blastocyst out of cryogenic storage, it will die. How can you consider something a human life if it dies when you unfreeze it? While I might not agree with it, I can understand why someone considers a developing fetus a human life, but I cannot understand why someone can consider a blastocyst a human life.

Date: 2006-07-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com
(Actually, I tend to find that people who don't draw a line between consent to sex and consent to pregnancy are making a cruel and even mocking argument -- as in "you made your bed, now lie in it" -- an argument which treats pregnancy and subsequent childbirth and even parentage as a just punishment -- which is a more horrible attitude than I can even express. But I hold open the possibilities that they don't mean to come across that way, and that there are arguments which don't draw that line but also don't take glee in punishing people for their sexual iniquities. I'm just predisposed to react badly to that sort of argument because usually a bad reaction turns out to be the right one.)

Date: 2006-07-20 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ukelele.livejournal.com
(Pardon me, that would be their sexual "iniquities" in scare quotes, as iniquities wouldn't be my word. The anti-sex attitude that tends to come across in this sort of argument is one I don't share.)

Date: 2006-07-20 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearmeson.livejournal.com
Agreed.

"They" often do fail to make a distinction between consent to sex and consent to pregnancy -- ostensibly because the "purpose" of sex is procreation.

The question of contraceptive effectiveness is usually answered by pro-lifers with "the only safe sex is NO sex." (and they want to keep it that way, apparently)

Date: 2006-07-21 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericakeithley.livejournal.com
I think you are right that most pro-lifers don't mean to come across as suggesting that pregnancy is a "just punishment" of sex. I think they tend to see pregnancy as a natural result of sex. Which seems quite logical to me.

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